Should he upload those service records to Carfax and expose it all?
Jo said:
Wow, that’s a mess! It’s too easy for people to mess with the odometer when there’s no mileage record. Did he get the correct mileage in the sales contract?
He didn’t even get a bill of sale 
Only proof he has is in the invoices from the app or anything he still has from before. He’s planning on calling the DMV tomorrow to report it.
@Davin
If he has a scan tool, he could probably check the odometer setting. Definitely get those records to Carfax and report to the state of Virginia. Looks like they’re trying to pull a fast one by selling it with fake mileage.
@Davin
Why does he even care?
Grayson said:
@Davin
Why does he even care?
He doesn’t have to care, but it’s good he’s trying to prevent someone else from getting ripped off.
Grayson said:
@Davin
Why does he even care?
It’s illegal to lie about mileage! He’s just doing the right thing so nobody gets overcharged for a truck with the wrong miles.
Grayson said:
@Davin
Why does he even care?
Depends on if the next person transfers the title correctly or not. Where I live, you can turn in your plate and paperwork if you’re done with it, and it stops being your problem.
@Davin
If he did all the work at the dealership, they should have a full record of the mileage history. He could go there and ask for copies of all invoices.
Jo said:
Wow, that’s a mess! It’s too easy for people to mess with the odometer when there’s no mileage record. Did he get the correct mileage in the sales contract?
Just checked with him. Nope, he didn’t get a bill of sale with the right mileage.
Jo said:
Wow, that’s a mess! It’s too easy for people to mess with the odometer when there’s no mileage record. Did he get the correct mileage in the sales contract?
Mileage is usually saved permanently in the PCM. I used to work on Audis, VWs, Dodge, Chrysler/Jeep, etc., and it’s not easy to make mileage records disappear. Any shop visit (tires, oil change) will record the mileage. I’d call the state and tell them about the fraud; they’re probably not doing this for the first time. If this goes through, they could face legal trouble or even jail time.
So based on Carfax, this truck was serviced in '21 at 55,707 miles and then apparently drove zero miles until it was sold in '24? Supposedly, it was driven around 800 miles from Michigan to Virginia and then listed at 56k miles? Those numbers don’t add up at all. Unless they’re also resetting the engine’s hour meter, they can’t hide this. Insurance companies might even have the mileage recorded. Odometer rollback is illegal as heck. If you’re really feeling motivated, you could check all the used cars sold by this dealer on Carfax and see if they’ve done this to other cars. You could potentially start a big lawsuit with other buyers and bring down the dealership.
@Cort
He’s doing all the things you guys suggested: uploading service records to Carfax, contacting the Virginia DMV, and planning to call the dealer. I’ll update when we know more!
Davin said:
@Cort
He’s doing all the things you guys suggested: uploading service records to Carfax, contacting the Virginia DMV, and planning to call the dealer. I’ll update when we know more!
Honestly, I’d just let the dealership find out when Carfax updates. It could be their undoing.
Sounds like he put one over on the dealer and whoever ends up with the truck. I’d report it to the dealer at the very least. Probably skipped the title transfer too and sold it to the dealer pretending to be your friend.
@Pace
Yeah, seems like it. I told him to upload his records to Carfax and then give the dealer a heads-up.
Davin said:
@Pace
Yeah, seems like it. I told him to upload his records to Carfax and then give the dealer a heads-up.
Good move. If he skipped the title and sold it pretending to be your friend, it could be more fraud. Good luck, man.
So you didn’t get scammed yourself; you’re just trying to make sure no one else does, right?
Kade said:
So you didn’t get scammed yourself; you’re just trying to make sure no one else does, right?
Yep, we’re all good. The guy just lowballed him at $29,500 and flew out to pick it up. Just don’t want anyone buying a $44k Raptor with fake miles.